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Thursday, June 25, 2020

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Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 25 08:44PM -0400

On 6/25/2020 5:13 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
 
> Possibly, but compare your homicide rate with ours.  You are much, much
> more likely to be murdered in the land where more people are armed and
> you are freer to use deadly force to protect yourself.
 
That is a broad statement.One of our local sheriffs thinks it is good
that people have guns and it is OK to shoot an intruder.Now that is
far different than prople walking down ths street getting shot for not
good reason.
 
There are times a gun should not be used.Break into my house, you are
taking a stupid chance.
 
My street has 10 houses.There are at least 3 ring doorbells, two
cameras, eight guns that I know of.Maybe more.I'd certainly hot try
to break in here but you are welcome to try.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 26 10:54AM +1000


>My street has 10 houses.There are at least 3 ring doorbells, two
>cameras, eight guns that I know of.Maybe more.I'd certainly hot try
>to break in here but you are welcome to try.
 
All tough talk aside, statistics show that people in countries with
strict gun laws are much less likely to be killed than people in the
US.
 
But to each their own, so: Enjoy!
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 08:07PM -0500

Dave Smith wrote:
> you had time to go and get your gun in its locked case, and to get
> ammunition to load it, then you weren't in enough danger to use
> lethal force.
 
Sounds like no reason to have a weapon in canuck towns.
 
In Tennessee, you can just lay it on your coffee table or bed stand
(loaded). Quicker to grab and fire if needed. I could easily get
off 6 rounds of .44, carefully aimed in less than 15 seconds.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 08:22PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
 
> I think Michigan, due to its nordicness, is fairly civilised for a
> fly-over state. As the weather gets better, the states become more
> primitive.
 
You wouldn't last a day in michigan druce. They do not have a law
to allow ass sniffing.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 09:06PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
> strict gun laws are much less likely to be killed than people in the
> US.
 
> But to each their own, so: Enjoy!
 
Adeu, and happy sniffing Druce!
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jun 25 07:59PM -0500

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 17:02:28 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
 
 
>> The recipe for the dough from the Forno Bravo manufacturer's site:
 
>> https://www.fornobravo.com/pizza-oven-library/article/pizza-sequence/pizza-dough/
 
> How do you cook the freezer pizza if your oven is broken?
 
Ahh, good question.The toaster oven. Which would be a great way to
ruin a raw pizza - even if you did make it small enough to fit in
there.
 
-sw
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jun 25 08:46PM -0500

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 09:42:33 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel wrote:
 
> tablespoonfuls 3 inches apart," do they mean "center-to-center"
> (my interpretation) or "3 inches between cookies" (Mrs. B's
> interpretation)?
 
Only construction trade workers and wood hobbyists measure your way.
No mention of "center" here.
 
-sw
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jun 25 08:59PM -0500

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 01:56:39 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
 
>> lonely pushover).
 
> There is no real update. I called the post office. I was told it was up to
> us, the neighbors to get and install the new mailbox.
 
You're lying.
 
> Gardener is here because there is a pandemic and he's stuck here for the
> time being.
 
Let him be stuck someplace else.He's just goin g to give you and
anybody else there The Shit. He's a careless, druggie slob.
 
> This according to the cops. Nobody can be evicted at this point
 
You kicked him out long before the pandemic. And there was never any
rental agreement.
 
So now you're letting him stay there for free?
 
You're getting shit on and you love it.
 
-sw
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jun 25 09:00PM -0500

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 12:00:46 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
>>neighbors so... We're stuck at that.
 
> The USPS has the same rules in every state, the home owner is
> responsible for the mailbox,
 
It's not a regular residential mailbox. Read the link I posted the
other day.It clearly says you're full of shit and Julie is lying.
 
-sw
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 25 08:39PM -0400

On 6/25/2020 7:41 AM, Gary wrote:
> part of convicting one innocent person.
 
> And in the entire court system, the "shanghaied" jurors are
> the lowest paid schmucks.
 
Not to worry, Gary, I doubt you'd make it through voir dire. ;)
 
Jill
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 07:47PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
 
> I think it would involve a lot of waiting, red tape and listening to
> waffling. Maybe it's worth it if the crime is interesting, but if it's
> just another lowlife meth addict...
 
You'd preconvict. Good that you'd never be on a jury there. Having
an asshat like you would be the crime.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 25 08:59PM -0400


>> I think it would involve a lot of waiting, red tape and listening to
>> waffling. Maybe it's worth it if the crime is interesting, but if it's
>> just another lowlife meth addict...
 
Just another lowlife meth addict who did what?Killed another person?
 
> I've only served on criminal court cases.I have no idea how interesting
> the civil cases would be.I was in the pool of jurors to be selected for
> the Vanderbilt rape case but they seated a jury before I was questioned.
 
I wouldn't have any problem serving on a jury.When I first moved here
I was served with notice I'd been called to jury duty.There were about
30 other potential jurors waiting.We filled out some forms, were given
numbers and taken into a courtroom.We had to go through voir dire.
Most of us were immediately dismissed.The attorneys for both sides
were there, asking questions, looking for specific types of people to
fill the jury box in their favour. (It did seem to me the Judge was half
asleep or didn't really care about what was going on.)
 
Another dismissed potential juror did recommend a seafood restaurant as
I was walking towards my car in the parking lot. :)
 
Jill
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 25 09:06PM -0400


> In Tennessee, the judge decides on the penalty.The criminal statute
> under which the person was convicted provides the appropriate sentence
> for the particular crime.
 
Not every state has the death penalty.And it typically takes years
before a person is executed.Usually has to be a particularly heinous
crime and all legal appeals over the course of many years exhausted.
 
Miss Manners doesn't approve of this thread drift. ;)
 
Jill
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 08:56PM -0500

jmcquown wrote:
 
> Another dismissed potential juror did recommend a seafood
> restaurant as I was walking towards my car in the parking lot. :)
 
> Jill
 
Interesting. In Tennessee, they don't allow jurors to smoke a
number. They'll shit if you just light up a cigarette.
 
And they don't even give you cream cheese, let alone fancy voir
dire they have in S. Carolina.
 
I guess jury duty here is more like alabama or texas. Nuthin fancy.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 08:58PM -0500

jmcquown wrote:
> many years exhausted.
 
> Miss Manners doesn't approve of this thread drift. ;)
 
> Jill
 
Thank you Karen.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 07:40PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
 
> I think he's a crook, a narcissist, a racist, a sexist and a dumbass,
> and I also wouldn't trust him with under aged girls, as supported by
> the pictures of him with that Epstein predator.
 
I agree Druce, but as a known ass sniffer and commie, yoose
wouldn't be much of a witness.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 26 10:42AM +1000

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
 
>> Is that so big? We get that size from our tree if there's no drought.
>> I also see them in the supermarket that size (and smaller too).
 
>I'm convinced that yoose guys are knuckleheads. I said in my post that they grow giant avocados in Australia. I also addressed the fact that contrary to the belief of people that have never had a giant avocado, it's quite tasty - just like a regular avocado. Yoose guys can't even understand simple ideas. The reason, of course, is
that the only voice yoose guys can hear is that little one inside your head.
 
That avocado is of normal, decent size in any country where I've ever
seen avocados.
 
And what's the big deal? You say it tastes good and that's the main
thing.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 08:45PM -0500

dsi1 wrote:
 
>> Is that so big? We get that size from our tree if there's no drought.
>> I also see them in the supermarket that size (and smaller too).
 
> I'm convinced that yoose guys are knuckleheads. I said in my post that they grow giant avocados in Australia. I also addressed the fact that contrary to the belief of people that have never had a giant avocado, it's quite tasty - just like a regular avocado. Yoose guys can't even understand simple ideas. The reason, of course, is that the only voice yoose guys can hear is that little one inside your head.
 
Dammit ... yoose right. I'm gonna wait for Popeye to educate us on
avocados.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 25 06:53PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 7:26:33 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
 
> > Wasn't the Senate Republican controlled at the time?
 
> Yes it was.
 
> Jill
 
No, it was not.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 25 09:56PM -0400

On 6/25/2020 6:11 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
 
> The rest of it comes out of the province's tax revenues.   FWIW, we
> spend less per capita on health care than the US and the government plan
> covers everyone. .... and we live longer.
 
AFAIK our doctors earn more and we have insurance companies making a
profit.I'm not sure of other cost differences.
 
I chuckle though when people from other countries say their medical is
"free".Most have no idea of cost.I talked to the owner of the villa
we rented in Italy and he said it is about 15% of income.There are
exceptions.
 
In my case, what my employer paid was not far off from that but I don't
know how it works for people making more or less than me since the
premiums would be about the same.
 
In the US, it was common for employers to pay for health insurance but I
think those days have gone.Some offer insurance but often with a hefty
employee contribution.
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Jun 25 09:46PM -0400

Silvar Beitel wrote:
...
> OK.That would have meant using 6 baking sheets with only 12 globs per sheet rather than the 3 sheets worth with 24 globs on them I did.OTOH, the cookies spread out to about 3 inches in diameter (look at the pictures) which would support the "3 inches center-to-center" idea.OTotherOH, they did run into each other a bit.I'm going with "enough expertise in cookie-making to know how far apart drop cookies have to be to prevent them running together based on the amount of dough per glob, the consistency of the dough, how much fat is in the dough, and how hot the oven is for how long."Which I know to the "close enough" standard, but thought I'd ask this august group just in case. :-)
 
> Thanks for playing.:-)
 
i'm just glad to see cooking questions i actually
have some ideas about.
 
i don't cook a lot of fancy dishes or wonder what
wine will go with my grilled cheese sandwich so...:)
 
 
songbird
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 07:59PM -0500


>> I wanna SELL this house and move! :-( Bel Nor SUCKS! :-(
 
>> John Kuthe...
 
> I guess your plans to be the mayor of Bel-Nor are dead?
 
Fuck NO! Da entire Loo is behind dis man.
 
JOHN KUNT FOR MAYOR!
 
RAH RAH RAH!
Derek Vinyard <skinhead@historyx.org>: Jun 25 08:53PM -0500

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 03:44:06 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
 
 
> :-(
 
> I am SORRY I ever bought and am restorting a house in Bel Nor MO! :-(
 
> John Kuthe...
 
Stick it to them by tearing off your community standard clay tile
roof and putting on slate grey comp shingles (or lavender if you can
find them - GAF will make any color you want).
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 07:50PM -0500

John Kuthe wrote:
 
>> FOUR? Damn. I knew about the UZI arrest. What else did you do?
 
> I do not answer Sock Puppets!
 
> John Kuthe...
 
OK. FUCK YOU PSYCHOPATH!
That is all, dick breath.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 26 10:38AM +1000

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 17:02:28 -0700, Taxed and Spent
 
>> https://www.fornobravo.com/pizza-oven-library/article/pizza-sequence/pizza-dough/
 
>> -sw
 
>How do you cook the freezer pizza if your oven is broken?
 
He breathes on it to cook it.
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Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 06:17PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
 
>>> So who is he?
 
>> Go ask Alex. He's here.:)
 
> He'll say he's Alex, freelance tax inspector.
 
If you ever pull your finger out and smell it, you'll know Gruce!
Alex <Xela777@gmail.com>: Jun 25 07:29PM -0400

Bruce wrote:
> Ok then. Alex, who is Gary saying you really are?
 
> (As if I'm going to get a useful reply, but anyway, since it was so
> brilliant...)
 
Ask him.  He's here!
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 26 10:37AM +1000


>> (As if I'm going to get a useful reply, but anyway, since it was so
>> brilliant...)
 
>Ask him.  He's here!
 
See?
Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com>: Jun 25 05:04PM -0700

On 6/25/2020 2:59 PM, dsi1 wrote:
 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1JQ8s4jSys
 
>> Until your own pocketbook depends upon that very "screwing people, fraud, and tax evasion, and greed" ?
 
> That would indeed be true for some people, not everyone.
 
Apparently that is true for the people who keep voting for free stuff.
Not free, but free to them.Not everyone, but plenty of people.Free
stuff!It's only fair!
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 25 08:26PM -0400

On 6/25/2020 12:53 PM, graham wrote:
>> in there sothat the Republicans would agree to it. This piece of junk
>> is Democrat all the way.
> Wasn't the Senate Republican controlled at the time?
 
Yes it was.
 
Jill
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 07:27PM -0500

Dave Smith wrote:
> annual income is under $20,000 it is free, over $200,600 it is
> $900. A guy with a wife and  4 kids and and a $50,000 annual income
> would pay $600 per year total.
 
I don't think they are in ontario. Where the hell did you figure it
was ontario?
 
whatever yoose smokin, it's better than kuth's cuppas.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 25 05:34PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 9:13:57 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >Looks like it would be tough and fibrous.
 
> Is that so big? We get that size from our tree if there's no drought.
> I also see them in the supermarket that size (and smaller too).
 
I'm convinced that yoose guys are knuckleheads. I said in my post that they grow giant avocados in Australia. I also addressed the fact that contrary to the belief of people that have never had a giant avocado, it's quite tasty - just like a regular avocado. Yoose guys can't even understand simple ideas. The reason, of course, is that the only voice yoose guys can hear is that little one inside your head.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 07:37PM -0500

Dave Smith wrote:
> annual income is under $20,000 it is free, over $200,600 it is
> $900. A guy with a wife and  4 kids and and a $50,000 annual income
> would pay $600 per year total.
 
Thats nice.
 
In Alabama, you can get all sorts of food stamps and welfare
relief. However, when they relocate to Ontario, the welfare
payments stop. I guess the canadians probably pay more anyway.
 
You can have them all, plenty of room in toronto.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 25 08:22PM -0400


>> I am SORRY I ever bought and am restorting a house in Bel Nor MO! :-(
 
>> John Kuthe...
 
> Who is "they"?
 
I can only guess it's the agency involved with inspecting and approving
his occupancy permits.Either that or his neighbors have been
complaining to the city council or whoever else will listen.
 
Jill
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 25 08:13PM -0400

On 6/25/2020 3:33 PM, songbird wrote:
> place (until you got too big to fit, but by then not
> all of us were going anyways).
 
>songbird
 
As young kids, my brothers and I travelled across this country, coast to
coast, in Mom & Dad's station wagon.We had sleeping bags to take naps
in the back; my oldest brother would stretch out on the back seat.Our
parents got a little tired of us singing.Only so many peanut songs
allowed on a 2600 mile trip!
 
Jill
ChristKiller@deathtochristianity.pl: Jun 25 06:52PM -0500

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 09:59:28 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
 
>> a super taster is not a good thing :(
 
>Did you undergo testing to confirm you're a super taster?
 
>Cindy Hamilton
 
To my knowledge there is no testing for this as the term super taster
is more of a socially created idea. All supertaster's have a few
things in common
 
seriously though the web is out there just go read
https://www.healthline.com/health/food-nutrition/supertaster#who-is-a-supertaster
 
--
 
____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 25 05:12PM -0700


> To my knowledge there is no testing for this as the term super taster
> is more of a socially created idea. All supertaster's have a few
> things in common
 
Created in your on egotistical mind.Yes, there is testing for that,
bird brain.
Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com>: Jun 25 05:02PM -0700

On 6/25/2020 3:42 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
 
> The recipe for the dough from the Forno Bravo manufacturer's site:
 
> https://www.fornobravo.com/pizza-oven-library/article/pizza-sequence/pizza-dough/
 
> -sw
 
How do you cook the freezer pizza if your oven is broken?
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 06:09PM -0500

Ophelia wrote:
 
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/F1DisN9VTJy56hTCnJSdzA.2PiQ_C0-MdkV0AazRQJd0I
 
> ===
 
>  WOW!!!   You actually saw one???  I haven't seen one for year!!!
 
They were sold here in the 80s. Didn't do well. Died soon
 
Farted and fell, as they say in jolly old england, Cherio old matey!
ChristKiller@deathtochristianity.pl: Jun 25 06:55PM -0500

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 10:36:52 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
 
>> --
 
>> ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____
 
>I don't doubt that you owned the Supra. What I meant to say was that you probably wish that you still had it. I wish I had the cars that I used to have during the 80's.
 
 
Oh yes yes yes I wish I still had it that was the best car ever! It
would have run forever!!!
 
--
 
____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 06:50PM -0500

ImStillMags wrote:
 
> I have a regular Wednesday night "date" with my "daughter" (a young woman who worked for me at the restaurant and calls me her other mother). She lives downstairs and we get together once a week for dinner and a tv show.
 
> I had sous vide a top round steak, cut into serving size portions, and had that in the freezer. I seared the steak and got a nice crust on it. We had it with a nice baked potato with all the fixins and a Fresh Express Sweet Kale Salad.
 
> I've come to really like Fresh Express' Sweet Kale salad.If you haven't tried it, do.It's quite good.
 
You shouldn't have posted all this. Popeye is probably already
whacking off.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 25 04:45PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 5:21:56 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
 
> I think it would involve a lot of waiting, red tape and listening to
> waffling. Maybe it's worth it if the crime is interesting, but if it's
> just another lowlife meth addict...
 
I've only served on criminal court cases.I have no idea how interesting
the civil cases would be.I was in the pool of jurors to be selected for
the Vanderbilt rape case but they seated a jury before I was questioned.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 06:19PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
 
> Don't forget you're talking to the Ambassador and Promoter
> Extraordinaire of the UK, where everybody reads Shakespeare while
> still in diapers.
 
Thankfully they are not trained to sniff asses in preschool.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 06:32PM -0500

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> "I have a gun.Get out of my house." If they still come at
> you after that, you may shoot.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
Pretty much the same rules anywhere. I only had to do that once. I
had a .44 mag ruger long barrel single action pistol on the table,
and when the guys came in, I told them twice to leave. After the
first request, I cocked the pistol. They sheepishly left, but if
they had lunged at me, there would have been a hell of a mess to
clean up. I'm glad it turned out well. I don't want it any other way.
Mike Duffy <bogus@nosuch.com>: Jun 25 10:54PM

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 14:05:29 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
 
>> time to go and get your gun in its locked case, and to get ammunition
>> to load it, then you weren't in enough danger to use lethal force.
 
> And if you were, you would be dead.
 
Tell the judge you were 'cleaning the guns' at 4:00 AM.
Hatake Kakashi <dkhk1000@gmail.com>: Jun 25 04:38PM -0700

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Alex <Xela777@gmail.com>: Jun 25 07:11PM -0400

John Kuthe wrote:
> No, my bad! I even painted over a spider or two!
 
> But generally it looks light years better!
 
> John Kuthe...
 
It's a shame you don't take pride in your work, or your property, enough
to at least clean something before you paint it.  Did you spray paint
over some bird shit, too?
 
No ambition...
Alex <Xela777@gmail.com>: Jun 25 07:12PM -0400

Gary wrote:
> were on that side of the porch? You killed them, didn't you?
> They were planted too close together plus you never watered
> them, did you?
 
Ophelia will add you to her shit list for picking on poor John.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 25 04:32PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 6:12:35 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
> > They were planted too close together plus you never watered
> > them, did you?
 
> Ophelia will add you to her shit list for picking on poor John.
 
*SNIGGER*
 
(That shit list is a l.o.o.o.o.ng one.)I most likely sit at the number
1 spot and proud of it, too.
Silvar Beitel <silverbeetle@charter.net>: Jun 25 03:07PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 5:10:15 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >you don't think of center of mass do ya?same
> >thing...IMO
 
> I think so too. (But that was the question.)
 
OK.That would have meant using 6 baking sheets with only 12 globs per sheet rather than the 3 sheets worth with 24 globs on them I did.OTOH, the cookies spread out to about 3 inches in diameter (look at the pictures) which would support the "3 inches center-to-center" idea.OTotherOH, they did run into each other a bit.I'm going with "enough expertise in cookie-making to know how far apart drop cookies have to be to prevent them running together based on the amount of dough per glob, the consistency of the dough, how much fat is in the dough, and how hot the oven is for how long."Which I know to the "close enough" standard, but thought I'd ask this august group just in case. :-)
 
Thanks for playing.:-)
 
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"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 25 02:52PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 5:44:10 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
 
> :-(
 
> I am SORRY I ever bought and am restorting a house in Bel Nor MO! :-(
 
> John Kuthe...
 
Who is "they"?
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 25 02:51PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 1:50:22 PM UTC-5, ImStillMags wrote:
 
> I have a regular Wednesday night "date" with my "daughter" (a young woman who worked for me at the restaurant and calls me her other mother). She lives downstairs and we get together once a week for dinner and a tv show.
 
> I had sous vide a top round steak, cut into serving size portions, and had that in the freezer. I seared the steak and got a nice crust on it. We had it with a nice baked potato with all the fixins and a Fresh Express Sweet Kale Salad.
 
> I've come to really like Fresh Express' Sweet Kale salad.If you haven't tried it, do.It's quite good.
 
Sounds really good!
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Jun 25 04:59PM -0400

Bruce wrote:
...
> But 3 inches from center to center or 3 inches from side to side?
 
when you drop the cookie dough on the sheet where is the
edge?three inches from that edge.i.e. three inches
apart.
 
when someone says "Stand three inches from me."
you don't think of center of mass do ya?same
thing...IMO
 
 
songbird
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 26 07:10AM +1000

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 16:59:27 -0400, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
wrote:
 
 
>when someone says "Stand three inches from me."
>you don't think of center of mass do ya?same
>thing...IMO
 
I think so too. (But that was the question.)
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 04:51PM -0500

songbird wrote:
 
>3 inches apart for that much dough IMO.
 
>some recipes spread more than others.
 
>songbird
 
I recommend vernier calipers and measure precisely from center to
center of each drop of dough. Some folks measure edge to edge, or
use their horoscopes. Sometimes, though, after I have drank a few
beers, I just glop them onto the sheet, willy nilly.
 
They always turn out better that way.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 25 05:11PM -0400

> when he was here his and his wife's health insurance premiums dropped
> from $20,000 per to $10,000 per because he had just qualified for
> Medicare.
 
In Ontario, the yearly premium for OHIP is salary based. If your annual
income is under $20,000 it is free, over $200,600 it is $900. A guy with
a wife and4 kids and and a $50,000 annual income would pay $600 per
year total.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 26 07:14AM +1000

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 13:54:09 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
 
>You probably weren't paying attention when Nancy Pukeosi said "We don't
>know what's in the bill until we pass it."Gotta love that power-hungry
>bitch.She actually said that.
 
But Trump's a great guy :) Strange country.
bruce2bowser@gmail.com: Jun 25 02:16PM -0700

dsi1 wrote:
> I don't have any problem with that philosophy. Unfortunately, screwing people, fraud, and tax evasion, and greed, is considered business as usual.
 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1JQ8s4jSys
 
Until your own pocketbook depends upon that very "screwing people, fraud, and tax evasion, and greed" ?
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 26 07:16AM +1000


>Pretty much the case.He tried to do something never done before but
>good intentions turned to crap.Trump said he was going to replace it
>with a better plan so it should be coming up very soon.
 
He has half a year left.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 25 02:20PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 4:14:12 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
 
> But Trump's a great guy :) Strange country.
 
Compared to some of the pond scum in D.C. he is.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 26 07:38AM +1000

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 14:20:45 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
 
>On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 4:14:12 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
 
>> But Trump's a great guy :) Strange country.
 
>Compared to some of the pond scum in D.C. he is.
 
Our perspectives differ. I can't think of lower pond scum than your
Presidente.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 04:40PM -0500

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> *Unless he ignores a burgeoning pandemic in an effort to help
> his re-election chances.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
Drumpf has certainly done the latter ... "It will go away on it's own.
 
"winning" ... MAGA!
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 04:41PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
 
> Russia, Brazil and the US are now on the EU's list of countries that
> have no control over Covid and can't enter. That's embarrassing
> company to be in.
 
And you whine because so many asses you can't snif Druce!
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 04:42PM -0500

Ophelia wrote:
> poor, you will still get medical care.  While I was working I had
> private health care but it was paid for by my boss.  Now I am
> reliant on the NHS and I have no problems with that!!
 
Ok.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 25 02:33PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 9:50:50 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> Juror is a serious
> responsibility and I would do my best to be fair and only convict on
> hard evidence.
 
That's the truth.I've been a juror on a murder trial and it does cause
a person to stop and think how serious it is to have someone's future in
your hands.It wasn't hard to find the creep guilty, just deciding if it
was murder in the second degree, voluntary or involuntary manslaughter.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 25 02:37PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 1:53:41 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
 
> The jury decides on guilty or innocent, but the judge decides on the
> the death penalty or the length of the jail term, is that correct?
 
In Tennessee, the judge decides on the penalty.The criminal statute
under which the person was convicted provides the appropriate sentence
for the particular crime.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 25 02:41PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 2:19:35 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
 
> I can probably be called for jury duty in Australia. I'd do everything
> I can to get out of it.
 
Why???Jury duty is really, really interesting, at least it is here.
You get an idea of how a trial really works, how well the defense
attorney and the district attorney present their cases.And in some
cases, you get to see a cancer on society all spiffed up and washed
behind the ears to look presentable to the court.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 25 02:25PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 11:31:46 AM UTC-5, Silvar Beitel wrote:
 
> And just for grins, some WILD ACTION!!!!!
 
> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/dm6X1Mgh3ZVyXLzw7>
 
> Silvar Beitel
 
My favorite photos of all you posted!!
Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com>: Jun 25 02:05PM -0700

On 6/25/2020 1:58 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> done with a handgun.Given the safe storage requirements, if you had
> time to go and get your gun in its locked case, and to get ammunition to
> load it, then you weren't in enough danger to use lethal force.
 
And if you were, you would be dead.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 25 02:09PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 1:57:31 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
 
> Don't forget you're talking to the Ambassador and Promoter
> Extraordinaire of the UK, where everybody reads Shakespeare while
> still in diapers.
 
Don't forget that Ju-Ju is speaking for the whole city when all she knows
is how mail is delivered to her street.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 26 07:12AM +1000

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 16:58:03 -0400, Dave Smith
>done with a handgun.Given the safe storage requirements, if you had
>time to go and get your gun in its locked case, and to get ammunition to
>load it, then you weren't in enough danger to use lethal force.
 
I think Michigan, due to its nordicness, is fairly civilised for a
fly-over state. As the weather gets better, the states become more
primitive.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 25 05:13PM -0400

On 2020-06-25 5:05 p.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
 
> And if you were, you would be dead.
 
 
Possibly, but compare your homicide rate with ours.You are much, much
more likely to be murdered in the land where more people are armed and
you are freer to use deadly force to protect yourself.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 25 02:14PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 3:03:56 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> "I have a gun.Get out of my house." If they still come at
> you after that, you may shoot.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
When I took the course for a concealed carry permit we were not told we
had to announce to the burglar we have a weapon.That might have changed
though in the last few years.
 
Drivers license and carry permit are to be renewed next month.License
will be good for another 5 years while the carry permit is good for 8 years.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 25 02:19PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 4:05:32 PM UTC-5, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> > time to go and get your gun in its locked case, and to get ammunition to
> > load it, then you weren't in enough danger to use lethal force.
 
> And if you were, you would be dead.
 
That's the truth!What good is a gun that is locked and unloaded?The
only time my gun is unloaded is when I'm cleaning it then it is reloaded
with hollow points until the next cleaning.
Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com>: Jun 25 02:04PM -0700

On 6/25/2020 1:20 PM, Ophelia wrote:
 
> ===
 
> WOW!!! You actually saw one???I haven't seen one for year!!!
 
I know a real estate guy that has SEVERAL of them!
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Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 26 06:00AM +1000


>Middle to higher income people have insurance often subsidized by their
>employer but the people that can least afford it have to pay into the
>"affordable care act"
 
Ok, terrible execution. But I keep hearing conflicting opinions about
why it was terrible. Either Obama was that stupid or the Republicans
ruined an initially good plan.
 
I guess the country's so divided that it's hard to find an objective
verdict.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jun 25 04:01PM -0400

>of.Taxes are a big one, and healthcare cost.Gone are the paid
>holidays and vacation.OTOH, if it is a mostly cash business you can
>avoid lots of paperwork.
 
And avoid declaring lots of income.If someone has their house
painted and pays cash they'll get a lower price and no one really
needs a receipt for a paint job unless it's a capital improvement for
a business... but home owners are only looking for a good price for a
good job, and for cash there's no tax.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 25 01:08PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 2:49:19 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
 
> That sounds bad, but I find it hard to believe that he'd want to come
> up with a plan to include everybody and then fail so badly. I don't
> think he's stupid plus he had advisors.
 
The insurance industry pays a ton of money to make sure its interests
are protected in Washington, DC.
 
Follow the money.It will always lead you to the truth, however
unpleasant.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 25 01:10PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 3:07:56 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >Too bad it turned out to be a big bonus for insurance companies.
 
> Ah, the Republicans ruined it. I knew it! Why does everybody blame
> Obama then?
 
Because he was President at the time.
 
Look at the economy.Generally speaking, there isn't a lot
the President can do about the economy.*Yet people blame or
praise him for whatever happens.
 
*Unless he ignores a burgeoning pandemic in an effort to help
his re-election chances.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 25 01:13PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 3:10:26 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >avoid lots of paperwork.
 
> No commuting, no boss, no colleagues, no alarm clock, no dress code.
> Self-employed FTW!
 
If we had "socialized" medicine, I might consider it.
 
My commute is 10 minutes.My boss is a software engineer, so no B.S.
I set the alarm 7 days a week for my husband's medication schedule--
and I rarely am asleep when it goes off. The dress code where I work
is more lax than my personal dress code.
 
Cindy Hamilton
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 25 01:39PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 9:47:37 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> get medical care.While I was working I had private health care but it was
> paid for by my boss.Now I am reliant on the NHS and I have no problems
> with that!!
 
It still exists although the present administration has weakened it by eliminating mandatory payments into the system and reduced incentives for the insurance companies to lower costs to the consumer. The administration has been unsuccessful in stopping ACA on Constitutional grounds so it's chipping away at it by reducing funding and making insurance harder to get.
 
The net result of all the hard work by the administration and the Republicans has been a rise in uninsured Americans since 2016. The reality is that universal healthcare will remain a distant dream until our government gets rid of the "public servants" that value money over people.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 26 06:42AM +1000

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 13:10:15 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
 
>Look at the economy.Generally speaking, there isn't a lot
>the President can do about the economy.*Yet people blame or
>praise him for whatever happens.
 
Yes, it's like blaming or praising the President for the weather.
 
>*Unless he ignores a burgeoning pandemic in an effort to help
>his re-election chances.
 
Russia, Brazil and the US are now on the EU's list of countries that
have no control over Covid and can't enter. That's embarrassing
company to be in.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 25 04:43PM -0400

On 6/25/2020 4:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
> ruined an initially good plan.
 
> I guess the country's so divided that it's hard to find an objective
> verdict.
 
Pretty much the case.He tried to do something never done before but
good intentions turned to crap.Trump said he was going to replace it
with a better plan so it should be coming up very soon.
 
I think most politicians are afraid to tackle it now.No matter what
they do, half the voters will be POd.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 26 06:44AM +1000

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 13:13:12 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>I set the alarm 7 days a week for my husband's medication schedule--
>and I rarely am asleep when it goes off. The dress code where I work
>is more lax than my personal dress code.
 
But just the fact that you have to be there from x am until y pm...
Some people couldn't work self-employed, though. They wouldn't do
anything :) It's not for everybody.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 26 06:46AM +1000

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 13:08:11 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>are protected in Washington, DC.
 
>Follow the money.It will always lead you to the truth, however
>unpleasant.
 
Not Obama's fault then. Unless he was on the take from the insurance
industry.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 03:50PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
>> Looks like it would be tough and fibrous.
 
> Is that so big? We get that size from our tree if there's no drought.
> I also see them in the supermarket that size (and smaller too).
 
I see these giant avocados in the supermarkets. They are huge, but
almost tasteless. They are not worth buying. Sometimes they are
sold as "california avocados".
 
Pure rubbish, only good for photo props.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 25 01:54PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 11:53:33 AM UTC-5, graham wrote:
 
> Wasn't the Senate Republican controlled at the time?
 
Obamacare, could pass into law because the Democratic Party briefly
held the White House, a majority in the House of Representatives
and a supermajority in the Senate in 2010.
 
You probably weren't paying attention when Nancy Pukeosi said "We don't
know what's in the bill until we pass it."Gotta love that power-hungry
bitch.She actually said that.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 03:55PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
 
> But just the fact that you have to be there from x am until y pm...
> Some people couldn't work self-employed, though. They wouldn't do
> anything :) It's not for everybody.
 
Like ass sniffing Fruce, it ain't for everybody.
 
Yoose think yoose the center of the universe, but I'm here to tell
you ... that position is shared between jeasus and Popeye!
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 25 01:59PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 1:25:00 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> of.Taxes are a big one, and healthcare cost.Gone are the paid
> holidays and vacation.OTOH, if it is a mostly cash business you can
> avoid lots of paperwork.
 
My heating and a/c guy has a really lucrative business because he's fair,
honest, and does not cheat his customers.He told me back in the winter
when he was here his and his wife's health insurance premiums dropped
from $20,000 per to $10,000 per because he had just qualified for
Medicare.
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 25 03:59PM -0500

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> replace it with a better plan so it should be coming up very soon.
 
> I think most politicians are afraid to tackle it now.  No matter
> what they do, half the voters will be POd.
 
Yes Ed. MAGA.
Like kuth ... Trump dood it!
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jun 25 01:57PM -0700

On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 6:46:38 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
 
> > 4 arrests, ZERO convictions!
 
> > John Kuthe...
 
> FOUR? Damn. I knew about the UZI arrest. What else did you do?
 
I do not answer Sock Puppets!
 
John Kuthe...
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 25 01:03PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 3:40:16 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
 
> ===
 
> Apparently if they are breaking in it isself defence, but if they are
> running away, it is use of excessive force!
 
My husband took the training to get a concealed-carry permit in
Michigan.The training covered home invasion.You can shoot
only if you feel you are in personal danger of injury or death.
Before shooting you should (or must--I can't recall) say,
"I have a gun.Get out of my house." If they still come at
you after that, you may shoot.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com>: Jun 25 01:22PM -0700

On 6/25/2020 1:03 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> "I have a gun.Get out of my house." If they still come at
> you after that, you may shoot.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
Of course it is not required that you say that.Depending on the
circumstances, that could leave you dead.
 
And you can defend the life of another, not just your own life, by using
deadly force.Just like the cops can.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 25 04:58PM -0400

On 2020-06-25 4:03 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> Before shooting you should (or must--I can't recall) say,
> "I have a gun.Get out of my house." If they still come at
> you after that, you may shoot.
 
Things are quite different here. You can buy a handgun. You need to get
a license to buy and own firearms, and a special on to get a handgun.
You can't carry them around. They have to be trigger locked and in a
locked case.
 
If you belong to a recognized gun club they can arrange for a transport
permit (ATT) for you. That will authorize you to transport it....
trigger locked and in a locked case and in the trunk... between your
residence and the range and home.Your ammunition has to be in a
separate locked case.
 
 
You can use deadly force to protect yourself, but only if it is a
reasonable use of force under the circumstances. It had better not be
done with a handgun.Given the safe storage requirements, if you had
time to go and get your gun in its locked case, and to get ammunition to
load it, then you weren't in enough danger to use lethal force.
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jun 25 09:18PM +0100

"songbird"wrote in message news:u8besg-ck2.ln1@anthive.com...
 
Ophelia wrote:
...
> respond
> mid conversation I put a line in instead of a space. Do you think it
> works??
 
reasonable quoting using the tradional appropriate number
of ">"'s is best for usenet.top posting is really icky.
inline replies i put a blank line because it is easier to
see.
 
is there no option for quoting in your newsreader?
 
 
songbird
 
===
 
Sorry, apparently not:((
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jun 25 09:20PM +0100

"dsi1"wrote in message
news:fbc1a4a2-7ef4-4955-bb0c-880f3de34346o@googlegroups.com...
 
On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 10:44:17 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> respond
> mid conversation I put a line in instead of a space. Do you think it
> works??
 
Don't you worry about a thing. I don't get confused - ever.
 
------------------Thank you!
 
I saw a Jensen Interceptor on the street the other day. It was totally
beautiful. I've always wanted one of those.
 
https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/F1DisN9VTJy56hTCnJSdzA.2PiQ_C0-MdkV0AazRQJd0I
 
===
 
WOW!!! You actually saw one???I haven't seen one for year!!!
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jun 25 09:22PM +0100

"dsi1"wrote in message
news:0509abdc-e6a6-4941-b89d-02e3f2c215a6o@googlegroups.com...
 
On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 1:41:47 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > touted as better for you if you are a low-carber.I'm still not
> > convinced it would make a great pizza dough.
 
> Perhaps we should all try one before we judge the idea.
 
My son used to make that when he was into low carbs. It was okay. It's just
a baked food dish. There's no reason to compare it to anything except baked
cauliflower mash with stuff on top. He also used to make spaghetti squash
with tomato sauce. Again, it is what it is. A vegetable dish with sauce.
These dishes are just fine - if you're into vegetables.
 
---
It's ok instead of rice too:))
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 25 01:43PM -0700

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 10:22:27 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> These dishes are just fine - if you're into vegetables.
 
> ---
>It's ok instead of rice too:))
 
I like rice but switched over to vegetables when we were on low-carbs. What we need is fake, low-carb, rice. That would be just swell.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 26 05:19AM +1000

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 06:33:33 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>based on the evidence (which wasn't much, in this case).I'm not
>a low-paid schmuck.
 
>I would never try to get out of jury duty.Because "duty".
 
I can probably be called for jury duty in Australia. I'd do everything
I can to get out of it.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 26 05:56AM +1000

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 14:56:16 -0400, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
wrote:
 
>> And a cookie-making question:When a recipe says, "Drop dough by tablespoonfuls 3 inches apart," do they mean "center-to-center" (my interpretation) or "3 inches between cookies" (Mrs. B's interpretation)?
 
>3 inches apart for that much dough IMO.
 
>some recipes spread more than others.
 
But 3 inches from center to center or 3 inches from side to side?
 
Or make one megacook.
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